Rich Eisen had Rules Analyst and former head of officiating on his show and asked what things were like in the league office today after the non-call in the Saints game. Pereira quickly replied "It's not a good world to be in".

Pereira says there's "heat coming from everywhere". He also tells Eisen that "We've got an interesting player in the mix here" talking about Sean Payton's involvement in NFL issues as a result of being a part of the Competition Committee.

The two go on to talk about changes that need to be made in officiating, and throw out a few ideas about how to make it better.